Edward Southworth of Leydon (I42446)
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| Birth | about. 1590 Wrington, Somersetshire, England |
| Marriage | 28 May 1613 (Age 23) Alice Carpenter - [View Family (F18382)]
Leyden, Holland |
| Death | 1620/1621 (Age approx. 30-31) England |
| Universal Identifier | D767459E62719C4E9B74D51641A88B59A569 |
| Last Change | 28 July 2006 - 01:00:00 |
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The following is condensed from John Southworth's "Miscellaneous Notes"to "A History of the Southworths of Samlesbury 1300-1890" The various candidates put forward as being Edward of Leyden: 1.Edward, son of Thomas of Wells, Shropshire 2.Edward of Fenton, Sturton, Nottinghamshire 3.Edward, son of Robert of Clarborough, Nottinghamshire 4.Edward, son of Richard, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire 5.Edward, son of Richard of London 6.Edward, son of Thomas of Samlesbury, Lancashire We know that Edward of Leyden was born about 1590 in England and that hemarried Alice Carpenter of Wrington, Somersetshire on 28 May 1613 atLeyden, Holland, that he had two children named Constant and Thomas andthat he died in England in 1620. 1. The idea that Edward of Leyden could have been the son of ThomasSouthworth of Wells, Shropshire arose from an apparent error in JustinWinsor's book, "History of Duxbury, Mass." wherein he stated thatConstant and Thomas Southworth were the sons of Constant and AliceSouthworth (nee Carpenter) and the grandsons of Thomas and Jane (neeMynne). This Thomas, however, did not mention any children in his will,nor did his mother in her will. Documents show that Edward Southworth wasmarried to Alice Carpenter, not Constant. See "A Genealogy of theSouthworth descendants of Constant Southworth" by Samuel G. Webber. 2. Edward of Fenton was shown to be 36 years old in 1608 which would havemade him 41 at the time of his marriage to Alice Carpenter. This wouldhave disqualified him from being described as a young man ("jongman") inthe Leyden marriage record. See "The Ancestry of Ensign Constant andCaptain Thomas Southworth of Plymouth and Duxbury, Mass." by Frederick L.Weiss. 3. Edward, son of Robert of Clarborough was, according to the visitationof Nottinghamshire, married to Ann Elsam around 1607 which disqualifies himfrom further consideration. See Webber's book. Robert of Clarborough hada brother who also had a son named Edward (see next item). 4. Edward, son of Richard of Clarborough was born in 1585 had a brothernamed Thomas, born two years earlier. It is possible that this Edward couldhave been Edward of Leyden. Webber and Weiss conclude that there islittle to connect the two, but Robert French in his article "Who wasEdward Southworth of Leyden" (Mayflower Quarterly,Feb. 1992) demonstratesthat Thomas Southworth (Richard of Clarborough's son and Edward'sbrother) left a bequest to a man named Nicholas Watkins, who was alsoleft a bequest by a woman named Anne Peck went she to join the Pilgrimsin Holland. French concludes his article by naming Pilgrims JohnRobinson, Richard Bernard, Richard Clyfton, John Smith, Hugo Bromhead,William Brewster et al as having ties to the Southworth family ofNottinghamshire. 5. Edward, son of Richard of London, would have been 52 years of age atthe time of his supposed marriage to Alice Carpenter and again would nothave been described as a young man on the marriage certificate. SeeWebber and Weiss. 6. Edward was the seventh son of Thomas of Samlesbury and Webberconcludes, that as such, he would not have had a very great inheritanceand would have had some reason to leave home. Webber clearly believesthat his Edward was Edward of Leyden and notes that Myles Standish camefrom Duxbury, Lancashire and that it is not improbable that they werefriends and so together joined the Pilgrim band. The Standish familyworshiped at St. Lawrence church which is less than ten miles fromSamlesbury Hall. John Southworth draws the following conclusions: "There is no denying a Nottinghamshire Southworth/Pilgrim connection" which can be established by considering the marriage of Samuel Fuller of Nottinghamshire to AgnesCarpenter (Alice's sister) in 1613. There is also a clear connection ofthe Samlesbury family and London (where Edward of Leyden lived prior tohis death in 1620). Edward of Leyden appears to have been both a merchant and business agentfor the Pilgrims and so was presumably literate, which was largely theprerogative of the wealthy. There is no record of Edward of Samlesbury'seducation, but his brothers Thomas and John attended Oxford. Edward of Leyden was married to Alice Carpenter of Wrington,Somersetshire. A branch of the Samlesbury Southworth's lived in that same county abouttwenty miles south west of Wrington. G.C.S. Southworth, in 1897, mentions that a kinsman, Mr. H.W. Southworth,visiting Europe sometime before then , met a Mr. Baron of Blackburn (thetownship of Samlesbury was in Blackburn parish). Mr. Baron told him thatEdward Southworth of Leyden was the son of Thomas Southworth, eldest sonof Sir John Southworth of Samlesbury Hall. John Southworth concludes by saying that "if the Samlesbury/Leydenconnection is an old established belief/tradition, predating any laterevolved alternative views, then it is likely to carry more weight. Theredoes not appear to be any old belief/tradition concerning anyNottinghamshire connection." |
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